Exmouth Plumb Park development approved

15 Jun

..despite local people’s fears that the Littleham Cross area will be “absolutely awful” once the new houses are built.

A SIN correspondent writes: “One of the Littleham councillors can’t believe they found it acceptable, he is most unhappy with them” . The Exmouth Journal has the story  http://www.exmouthjournal.co.uk/news/350_littleham_homes_approved_by_council_1_2236231



12 Responses to “Exmouth Plumb Park development approved”

  1. Simon Beard June 15, 2013 at 4:33 pm #

    It will be fine. My children have been looking for affordable housing for years in Exmouth. This is fantastic news. All whining is from rich people in Douglas Avenue not liking their views altered. Well us working people need a home so we should be pleased

    • Philip Smith June 16, 2013 at 9:31 am #

      It is`t fine now.
      1..Littleham Cross is so bad with the current traffic situation old people living in Orcombe Court have to have the traffic stopped each day by more able bodied people,which includes the local post lady, to get across the road to the shops
      2. Run off water has flooded the Railway Cottages in Littleham Road on four occasions in the past four years.
      3. The sewage system can not cope during heavy rainfall. Sewerage has seeped onto the Maer Valley close to the sea.
      4. The EDDC Empty Homes Strategy 2009 to 2014 informs that there are thousands of empty homes in the EDDC area. I suggest it it viewed on the www.

      I do not live on Douglas Avenue. It would also appear that Simon Beard does not live in the Littleham Cross area either.

      Facts are appreciated not swipes at local residents who have worked hard to be able to afford a house in Douglas Avenue.

  2. PK June 15, 2013 at 6:59 pm #

    Why not two entrances?

  3. Tim June 16, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    So Simon you won’t mind your children living in a house that needs triple glazing to keep out all the foul air dust and noise at that part of the site which is near the existing industrial area? You won’t mind them not being able to use the garden or play a great deal. Triple glazing was the suggestion of a EDDC planning officer in response to questions raised about environmental issues of dust and smell.
    Oh, I am neither rich not do I live anywhere near that area. I do though pass by from time to time, and I use Salterton road where we already get held up at the Littleham Cross lights. The objections were not to the development per se but the size of it, locations of some of the houses, and access. We all want to see affordable hosuing but that isn’t an excuse for inappropriate development. Care to have a bet on how much of the ‘up to 40% affordable housing’ they end up with?

  4. Medusa June 16, 2013 at 7:52 pm #

    Two entrances will cost at least twice as much as one and cut into the profits of the developer so that is a non-starter.

    • PK June 16, 2013 at 10:32 pm #

      Why? I thought it was Devon Clinton Estates who were doing it?

  5. Sandra Semple June 17, 2013 at 8:26 am #

    That will be lovely for your children Simon. Presumably, from their lower than average wages in the south west they will have been able to raise the £20,000 to £30,000 deposit each for this affordable housing and get a mortgage. How lucky they are compared to most young people in this country who cannot manage either as wages drop or they have to accept part-time jobs as they are the only ones available.

    The housing market is much more complex than just building so-called ‘affordable homes’ everywhere possible… even on our scarce AONBs (Why do you think they exist, by the way?)
    There’s a greater need to develop brownfield sites, and accept higher densities in towns and cities, as well as building more social housing and offering long term rental contracts in these areas. No need to tell our children that the economy, and their realistic prospects, are changing along with the climate. Being saddled with home ownership in a degraded environment can’t be the only way forward.

  6. Medusa June 17, 2013 at 11:48 am #

    Why should Clinton Devon Estate be any different to any other developer? It isn’t a charity, it is a very lucrative and very diverse family business with fingers in many pies. Developers are in it for the money not for the benefit of residents of the estates they are developing on their green field sites. They, just like any other developer, will be looking to maximise profit and minimise costs – that’s their job.

    EDDC COULD have insisted on two entrances as part of the S106 payments – they did not. So, no extra entrances – they cost the developer money and they go on land where houses go which make profit.

    • Philip Smith June 18, 2013 at 10:34 am #

      During the hearing one Councillor asked if the DMC could place a condition on Clinton Devon Estates ensuring a minimum of two entrances. A planning officer ( legal beagle ) insisted it was one entrance or the application HAD to be refused. Consequently 8 Councillors took the easy way out and voted to approve.

      What really put the final nail in the coffin was the suggestion by the Highways Agency that extra traffic would not be severe in the Littleham Cross area. We were told if CDE appealed it would be very difficult for EDDC to have the refusal upheld.

      The traffic issue really got Littleham Ward Councillor Tim Wood ( ex Tory MP ) going, He stated it was a joke to suggest the traffic situation was not sever now.Never mind when a additional 400 houses were built. 350 in Plumb Park and 50 in Pankhurst Estate.

      What came through loud and clear was the lack of will to refuse the application just in case CDE appealed and were successful. Costs would then have to be paid by EDDC.

      This is all particularly galling as in February 2012 Strategic Land Partnerships ( developers ) appealed an EDDC refusal decision not to build on land NW of Courtland Cross here in Exmouth. Their appeal was REJECTED. So it can be done.

      Who are these Councillors representing ?

      The human face to all this came home to me last Saturday when Roger who lives in Buckingham Close, the only access route into Plumb Park, and has done for years visited to see if anything further can be done by way of an appeal. His bungalow has been on the market for 4 months and, if sold, will be bought for way below the market value just because of Plumb Park. He and his wife have over the years made their home bespoke to them

      They are distraught.

      • Emma June 20, 2013 at 7:14 am #

        I too do not live on Douglas Ave, or indeed anywhere in Exmouth, although I regularly pass through Littleham. I find it hard to believe that anyone could genuinely consider it a good idea to send traffic from a further 350 houses through the area. Of wider concern, however, is the fact that yet again the Highways Agency sees fit to disregard the severity of the traffic issues that would arise from such a development, seemingly in order to suit the pro-development agenda. They have now made more than one statement in support of a proposed development that is utterly at odds with the experiences of the people who actually use the nearby roads. Several planning applications could and should be stopped due to their unacceptable impact on the local road network, yet this is not happening.

  7. PK June 17, 2013 at 6:37 pm #

    they look after the commons very well, wildlife etc and help local schools, charities and others. I think they would be different if you talked to them. I didn’t realise it was in an AoNB I thought it was outside it. I will look again. Thanks for Pointing it out, it is important Sandra. I still think there should be another access though.

  8. Farmer Giles June 18, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    Fields for farms not people

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